Draft Day 2 Thread 2012

Post **#31** by **Old Sneakers** » June 5th, 2012, 4:34 pm

Colin Poche is plenty young to get some secondary pitches and be developed as a starter. The trick is getting him signed.

Post **#32** by **Matt P** » June 5th, 2012, 4:35 pm

I also mean for the position players. Are any of them really going to ever contribute to the big league team or are most of them a long shot? I read the SS in round 3 is going to be a project but with the new player development in the organization I have more hope than if he got drafted in previous years.

Post **#33** by **TuckerBlair89** » June 5th, 2012, 4:35 pm

Old Sneakers wrote:Colin Poche is plenty young to get some secondary pitches and be developed as a starter. The trick is getting him signed.

spot on. Saw a few tweets saying he was an iffy sign. He has a projectable starter build though.

Matt P wrote:I also mean for the position players. Are any of them really going to ever contribute to the big league team or are most of them a long shot? I read the SS in round 3 is going to be a project but with the new player development in the organization I have more hope than if he got drafted in previous years.

Really hard to predict that right now.

Post **#34** by **TuckerBlair89** » June 5th, 2012, 4:43 pm

Post **#35** by **Shorebirdfan** » June 5th, 2012, 5:40 pm

Seems like even with the changes in the front office we continue to draft a lot of the same players. Good speed good D little power OF and early selection of arms that seem more destined for the pen than the rotation.

I guess if you could build a successful homegorwn pen from top to bottom it wouldn't be that bad since you could invest FA money in SP and power.

Like to see them go after a couple heavy hitters in the next few rounds.

Post **#36** by **TuckerBlair89** » June 5th, 2012, 5:45 pm

Post **#37** by **Rising O's** » June 5th, 2012, 7:33 pm

Looking at the draft, are there any potential steals in this group?

Post **#38** by **CSPitt17130** » June 5th, 2012, 7:57 pm

Billy Waltrip was #181 at Baseball America and was drafted with pick 372. Derick Velasquez was #74 overall at BA, picked at 462.

Post **#39** by **TuckerBlair89** » June 5th, 2012, 8:01 pm

CSPitt17130 wrote:Billy Waltrip was #181 at Baseball America and was drafted with pick 372. Derick Velasquez was #74 overall at BA, picked at 462.

It's weird because of how round 4-10 went...I wouldn't even call them steals. Those type of players were simply not drafted from 4-10.
This draft has to be one of the oddest one in a while with the new rules

Post **#40** by **CSPitt17130** » June 5th, 2012, 8:05 pm

TuckerBlair89 wrote:It's weird because of how round 4-10 went...I wouldn't even call them steals. Those type of players were simply not drafted from 4-10.
This draft has to be one of the oddest one in a while with the new rules

Maybe not Waltrip, but Velasquez at #74 overall had a good chance of going in the earlier rounds (assumption based solely on BA's ranking) as a legitimate pick before teams started taking college seniors. Definitely get what you're saying though.

Post **#41** by **TuckerBlair89** » June 5th, 2012, 8:13 pm

CSPitt17130 wrote:
TuckerBlair89 wrote:It's weird because of how round 4-10 went...I wouldn't even call them steals. Those type of players were simply not drafted from 4-10.
This draft has to be one of the oddest one in a while with the new rules

Maybe not Waltrip, but Velasquez at #74 overall had a good chance of going in the earlier rounds (assumption based solely on BA's ranking) as a legitimate pick before teams started taking college seniors. Definitely get what you're saying though.

Yea, I give up trying to analyze where these guys value at. I like to Velasquez pick though at that spot.

Post **#42** by **Shorebirdfan** » June 5th, 2012, 8:26 pm

Just reading BA's review of the day, and its really a shame. The changes in rules and slotting almost had the opposite impact of what it was supposed to do (level the playing field to where drafting was done based on talent). Instead it seems like you had "Normal" rounds 1-3. Round 4 started in the 11th and round 9 started back in round 4. I understand (after reading the BA piece) why it fell this way (college seniors simply have no leverage). Like most drafts the key becomes who signs.

Post **#43** by **Ampontan** » June 5th, 2012, 9:03 pm

Rising O's wrote:Listening a little to mlb.com draft coverage, their consensus is relief pitcher. His history is as a reliever pushed into a starters roll this year. Likely a below slot signing, looking to save for a roll of the dice later?

KLaw had him at 60 out of his top 100, so maybe not.

Post **#44** by **CSPitt17130** » June 5th, 2012, 9:49 pm

Steve Melewski ‏@masnSteve
Orioles scouting dir. Gary Rajsich told me on 105.7 the Fan the O's drafted for signability in rnd 10 to give them a pad 2 sign first 9 pix.

Most of the first 9 picks didn't seem like over-slot or even slot guys to begin with.

Post **#45** by **Rising O's** » June 5th, 2012, 11:52 pm

That quote doesn't make sense. Round 10 was your easy sign? How much is that slotted for anyway? 100k at the absolute most? So at minimum you would have to offer 40k or 40%. The issue is that if you fail to sign a player, you lose whatever the slot amount would be, it cannot be applied elsewhere. So I'm confused how this 10th round pick helps at all.

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