

Matt P wrote:I believe it should. It tarnishes the game and any milestones/records that were set by someone proven to have been on steroids should be removed from the record books.



osforlife wrote:Yes. Although we don't know how much it effected their play, it's cheating and thats the bottom line. Not only disqualified from the Hall of Fame, but record books too.


TuckerBlair89 wrote:I pretty much agree with what you say ofahn.
It's at the point where we just have to accept that an entire generation was built around this. You just have to accept that it had become almost a "standard". All the players that deserve to make the HOF that did them, most likely made it anyways. And even if you argued they didn't, they were still at the top of the game for many years to come.
It's always going to be a touchy subject though.

ofahn wrote:osforlife wrote:Yes. Although we don't know how much it effected their play, it's cheating and thats the bottom line. Not only disqualified from the Hall of Fame, but record books too.
So, you're saying that EVERYONE that has admitted to using Greenies should be eliminated from the Hall of Fame? Do you have an idea of how many players that would be and the NAMES on that list. You're talking about gutting the HOF.
If you use the same standard that most sportswriters are using that would mean that NO player from the early 50s until the late 80s would eligible for the HOF, and if they have already been admitted they should be expelled. Is that really what you're saying?

osforlife wrote:ofahn wrote:osforlife wrote:Yes. Although we don't know how much it effected their play, it's cheating and thats the bottom line. Not only disqualified from the Hall of Fame, but record books too.
So, you're saying that EVERYONE that has admitted to using Greenies should be eliminated from the Hall of Fame? Do you have an idea of how many players that would be and the NAMES on that list. You're talking about gutting the HOF.
If you use the same standard that most sportswriters are using that would mean that NO player from the early 50s until the late 80s would eligible for the HOF, and if they have already been admitted they should be expelled. Is that really what you're saying?
I'm not sure when the HGH rule came into use, but whoever illegally took steriods should be disqualified from the Hall of Fame. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Or you could just put an asterisk by all the players who cheated their way in.
it's cheating and thats the bottom line. Not only disqualified from the Hall of Fame, but record books too.

ofahn wrote:Matt P wrote:I believe it should. It tarnishes the game and any milestones/records that were set by someone proven to have been on steroids should be removed from the record books.
Are you also saying that those HOFers that have admitted to using Greenies should also be removed? That would be quite a list.

Matt P wrote:ofahn wrote:Matt P wrote:I believe it should. It tarnishes the game and any milestones/records that were set by someone proven to have been on steroids should be removed from the record books.
Are you also saying that those HOFers that have admitted to using Greenies should also be removed? That would be quite a list.
I don't know what Greenies are.


Matt P wrote:Well, I don't know enough about them to give an opinion on them. Maybe I'll research it a bit this week before classes start next week. If I do I'll let you know.

ofahn wrote:osforlife wrote:osforlife wrote:Yes. Although we don't know how much it effected their play, it's cheating and thats the bottom line. Not only disqualified from the Hall of Fame, but record books too.
So, you're saying that EVERYONE that has admitted to using Greenies should be eliminated from the Hall of Fame? Do you have an idea of how many players that would be and the NAMES on that list. You're talking about gutting the HOF.
If you use the same standard that most sportswriters are using that would mean that NO player from the early 50s until the late 80s would eligible for the HOF, and if they have already been admitted they should be expelled. Is that really what you're saying?
I'm not sure when the HGH rule came into use, but whoever illegally took steriods should be disqualified from the Hall of Fame. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Or you could just put an asterisk by all the players who cheated their way in.

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