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Paul Maholm

Paul Maholm

PostPost #1 by Tucker Blair » January 6th, 2012, 4:00 pm

http://orioles-nation.com/blogs/baltimo ... ul-maholm/
The Orioles have interest in LHP Paul Maholm, according to Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports. The other clubs in on Maholm are reportedly the Mariners, Red Sox, and Cubs. Maholm’s former club, the Pirates, have also kept in touch with him but are unlikely to resign him, according to Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Tribune.

Maholm, 29, was a 1st round pick (2003) of the Pittsburgh Pirates. Through seven seasons with the Pirates, he has compiled a 53-73 record with a 4.36 ERA, 96 ERA+, 1.424 WHIP, 5.5 K/9, and a 3.0 BB/9. In 2011 posted a 6-14 record in 162.1 innings with a 3.66 ERA, 105 ERA+. 1.294 WHIP, 5.4 K/9, and a 2.8 BB/9.

Maholm would provide the Orioles with another reliable arm in the rotation. He could presumably be a better option than Joe Saunders, and would come at a lesser price than Edwin Jackson.



I would gladly take him. I think he is a very underrated pitcher, and I am actually quite shocked by the lack of interest/talk in him up until now. He has been in even a worse scenario than Baltimore his entire career!
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Re: Paul Maholm

PostPost #2 by ofahn » January 6th, 2012, 4:39 pm

I brought up Maholm's name as an alternative to Edwin Jackson. He's not Sandy Koufax, or even Scott McGregor, but he could be an asset and a trade chip if he just pitches to league average.

I'm not afraid of starting with five veteran imports in the starting rotation if they are pitching effectively. IMO, none of our young pitchers have earned a spot on the 25 man roster yet. A couple of them may break camp with the big club by default, but that's not the same thing as earning a spot. Effective starting pitching is always in demand so we won't have any trouble moving these vets for a fair return during the season as the kids earn their spots.
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PostPost #3 by j.q. higgins » January 6th, 2012, 5:52 pm

depending on how the infield rounds out, you could do a lot worse than a solid lefty groundball machine. what do you think it would take? 5-7 million?
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PostPost #4 by ofahn » January 6th, 2012, 8:55 pm

j.q. higgins wrote:depending on how the infield rounds out, you could do a lot worse than a solid lefty groundball machine. what do you think it would take? 5-7 million?


I understand he's looking for two years so it might be 10 -11M for two years at this point. End of January and you might be looking at one year for 4M.
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PostPost #5 by Matt P » January 7th, 2012, 3:37 pm

I would have no problem with a 2/10 deal for him.
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PostPost #6 by Tucker Blair » January 7th, 2012, 3:47 pm

Matt P wrote:I would have no problem with a 2/10 deal for him.
it would be a low risk deal and sure up our rotation a little. Compare that to the Kevin Gregg deal and it's hard to not think Maholm would be a larger impact.
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Re: Paul Maholm

PostPost #7 by osforlife » January 7th, 2012, 4:36 pm

Would he really be that much of an upgrade over Tommy Hunter? He's had two above-average seasons out of six. Sure, he brings more veteran presence but he's had 3 totally different seasons the past three years. 4.44 ERA, 5.10 ERA, 3.66 ERA. Which Paul Maholm are you going to get? Why pay 5.5 million more for Maholm than Hunter?
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PostPost #8 by Tucker Blair » January 7th, 2012, 4:59 pm

osforlife wrote:Would he really be that much of an upgrade over Tommy Hunter? He's had two above-average seasons out of six. Sure, he brings more veteran presence but he's had 3 totally different seasons the past three years. 4.44 ERA, 5.10 ERA, 3.66 ERA. Which Paul Maholm are you going to get? Why pay 5.5 million more for Maholm than Hunter?
his numbers are much better when you dig deeper. 2010 was a tough year for him but he is much better when you dig deeper into his stats. He is the pirates version of Guthrie IMO (not pitching-wise but numbers wise)
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PostPost #9 by ofahn » January 7th, 2012, 5:14 pm

TuckerBlair89 wrote:
osforlife wrote:Would he really be that much of an upgrade over Tommy Hunter? He's had two above-average seasons out of six. Sure, he brings more veteran presence but he's had 3 totally different seasons the past three years. 4.44 ERA, 5.10 ERA, 3.66 ERA. Which Paul Maholm are you going to get? Why pay 5.5 million more for Maholm than Hunter?
his numbers are much better when you dig deeper. 2010 was a tough year for him but he is much better when you dig deeper into his stats. He is the pirates version of Guthrie IMO (not pitching-wise but numbers wise)


And having extra pitching to trade in July will help restock the farm system.
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PostPost #10 by Tucker Blair » January 7th, 2012, 5:15 pm

ofahn wrote:
TuckerBlair89 wrote:
osforlife wrote:Would he really be that much of an upgrade over Tommy Hunter? He's had two above-average seasons out of six. Sure, he brings more veteran presence but he's had 3 totally different seasons the past three years. 4.44 ERA, 5.10 ERA, 3.66 ERA. Which Paul Maholm are you going to get? Why pay 5.5 million more for Maholm than Hunter?
his numbers are much better when you dig deeper. 2010 was a tough year for him but he is much better when you dig deeper into his stats. He is the pirates version of Guthrie IMO (not pitching-wise but numbers wise)


And having extra pitching to trade in July will help restock the farm system.
certainly. By signing Maholm you could possibly trade Guthrie finally . Or both of them . It is just another option for us and it adds depth
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Re: Paul Maholm

PostPost #11 by osforlife » January 7th, 2012, 9:39 pm

TuckerBlair89 wrote:
osforlife wrote:Would he really be that much of an upgrade over Tommy Hunter? He's had two above-average seasons out of six. Sure, he brings more veteran presence but he's had 3 totally different seasons the past three years. 4.44 ERA, 5.10 ERA, 3.66 ERA. Which Paul Maholm are you going to get? Why pay 5.5 million more for Maholm than Hunter?
his numbers are much better when you dig deeper. 2010 was a tough year for him but he is much better when you dig deeper into his stats. He is the pirates version of Guthrie IMO (not pitching-wise but numbers wise)


What do you mean dig deeper? .303 batting average against, .360 obp against, .452 slugging against, very bad whip, only 5 strikeouts an inning, only pitched 200 innings once. What stat is going for him?
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PostPost #12 by Jordan Tuwiner » January 7th, 2012, 9:42 pm

osforlife wrote:
TuckerBlair89 wrote:
osforlife wrote:Would he really be that much of an upgrade over Tommy Hunter? He's had two above-average seasons out of six. Sure, he brings more veteran presence but he's had 3 totally different seasons the past three years. 4.44 ERA, 5.10 ERA, 3.66 ERA. Which Paul Maholm are you going to get? Why pay 5.5 million more for Maholm than Hunter?
his numbers are much better when you dig deeper. 2010 was a tough year for him but he is much better when you dig deeper into his stats. He is the pirates version of Guthrie IMO (not pitching-wise but numbers wise)


What do you mean dig deeper? .303 batting average against, .360 obp against, .452 slugging against, very bad whip, only 5 strikeouts an inning, only pitched 200 innings once. What stat is going for him?

4.18 FIP and 4.41 xFIP.
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PostPost #13 by j.q. higgins » January 8th, 2012, 9:38 am

not terrible career FIP/xFIPs. his rookie season didn't look all that different from britton.
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PostPost #14 by Tucker Blair » January 8th, 2012, 11:32 am

j.q. higgins wrote:not terrible career FIP/xFIPs. his rookie season didn't look all that different from britton.
yup, just as good fip and xfip as Gavin floyd, Guthrie last season. Like I said , underrated because he was with the pirates and a perennial loser.
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Re: Paul Maholm

PostPost #15 by Matt P » January 8th, 2012, 3:48 pm

osforlife wrote:
TuckerBlair89 wrote:
osforlife wrote:Would he really be that much of an upgrade over Tommy Hunter? He's had two above-average seasons out of six. Sure, he brings more veteran presence but he's had 3 totally different seasons the past three years. 4.44 ERA, 5.10 ERA, 3.66 ERA. Which Paul Maholm are you going to get? Why pay 5.5 million more for Maholm than Hunter?
his numbers are much better when you dig deeper. 2010 was a tough year for him but he is much better when you dig deeper into his stats. He is the pirates version of Guthrie IMO (not pitching-wise but numbers wise)


What do you mean dig deeper? .303 batting average against, .360 obp against, .452 slugging against, very bad whip, only 5 strikeouts an inning, only pitched 200 innings once. What stat is going for him?

You act like 5 strikeouts an inning is a bad thing :lol:
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