dan72 wrote:Jordan-I agree with your changes, what a lineup that would be. Only concern is would we have any payroll left to address pitching needs? Lately I have heard some rumors about Prince going to the Nationals. Makes sense for him to stay in the NL.
Jordan wrote:They will have about $15 million coming off the books at the end of the season from Vlad, Izturis and Gonzalez.
ofahn wrote:Jordan wrote:They will have about $15 million coming off the books at the end of the season from Vlad, Izturis and Gonzalez.
Are you also considering Lee, Uehara, Accardo, and Ducherer(sp?)? That's another 12M coming off of the books.
Although I would prefer to see David Wright, I would consider Michael Young to be a solid pickup IF we don't have to pay much in prospects.
I wouldn't have offered Fielder what the Brewers did so I obviously don't want to spend what it will take to get him here. IMO anything beyond four years for him will be a bad contract, he's NOT a good defensive 1B, AND we have too many holes to fill to spend that much on just one player. Perhaps we could try to trade Adam Jones to the Giants for Brandon Belt (1B), Eric Surkamp (LHP), and Gary Brown (OF). It's a good trade for both sides and it would allow for us to improve our outfield defense.
Rising O's wrote:When they fail to tender both Pie and Scott they'll save around 8.5 million. But I digress...
Money should never be a point of discussion when it comes to the Baltimore Orioles until they have a consistent payroll near 130 million. So how much will it costs is not relevant for this organization nor will it be for at least 5 years. Heck even today, or yesterday there was an article in the New York Times stating MASN had revenues of close to 190 million. What the profits are I don't know. I imagine its a nice tidy sum given the industry. If the Orioles are crying about what a player costs then Angelos needs to sell the team or the stadium should be empty until he does.
I think with Fielder you get 8-10 wins easily because his production will make other players that much better. I think a Fielder/Jones/Reynolds can give you 3 100 RBI candidates with an above average top of the order hitter. See Angel thread (plug alert).
ofahn wrote:If we spent the same 200M over eight years on signing amateur talent that Fielder is going to sign for we would have a top five farm system and a consistently winning team.
Matt P wrote:ofahn wrote:If we spent the same 200M over eight years on signing amateur talent that Fielder is going to sign for we would have a top five farm system and a consistently winning team.
True, but that will never happen.
Rising O's wrote:I'm of the potentially ignorant opinion that stars make the team better. What I mean is that on an individual basis, and in a vacuum environment, Fiedler only adds 5 wins. But that's not how the game is played, as his impact and presence will improve the entire offense. So what you have is +1 or +2 for 4 or 5 other guys in the line-up as a result so you end up with 10-15+ wins. It doesn't solve all of the Orioles problems but it starts you on the path to relevance. We're an AL team so offering 7 years should not be a problem and spending the money shouldn't even be a consideration.
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