Welcome to the Orioles Nation Forums! Like most online communities, you must register to post on our message board. However, posting is free--it always will be--and registration is a simple process. Become part of the growing Orioles Nation community and register now!

2nd Round Pick

2nd Round Pick

PostPost #1 by Wingman » May 25th, 2011, 10:13 am

For a couple of reasons, I think I'm more concerned about who we take with our 2nd round pick than our first. Obviously, we need to nail our first round pick and they should be the best player in our class but I think despite the fact we have our favorite for who we take at four, I think there are several players we could take at 4 that we would be happy with. With the weakness in our system (esp. compared with other AL East teams) and the stated reliance of the draft by McPhail and management, we need to add another "impact" player in the 2nd (and other early rounds) if we have any hope of ever contending.

Anybody have some thoughts on who could be some good prospects that have a realistic possibility of falling to our 2nd round pick?
Wingman
DSL Orioles
 
Posts: 5
Joined: May 2011
Reputation Score: 0

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #2 by Don » May 25th, 2011, 10:46 am

You should read around the 2011 Prospects forum and there is some thoughts about some players in 50-70 range. It all depends. I will most likely give a BPA list after the first round is completed, but there is some good depth.

College Arms: Mark Pope, Tony Zych ,Joshua Osich, Tyler Anderson, Jack Armstrong, Chris Reed

College Bats: (C) James McCann, (C) Pratt Maynard, (3B) Jason Esposito, (2B) Kolten Wong

High School Arms: Adrian Houser, Kevin Moriarty, Henry Owens, Jordan Cote

High School Bats: (OF) Larry Greene, (OF) Shawon Dunston Jr., (OF) Dwight Smith, (OF) Senquez Golson, (1B) Kevin Cron, (SS/2B) Tyler Greene
User avatar
Don
Orioles Nation Staff
Director of Scouting
GCL Orioles
 
Posts: 699
Joined: September 2010
Reputation Score: 25

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #3 by docjj » May 25th, 2011, 11:52 am

I watched Pope pitch today against Clemson. He threw only one bad pitch the entire day, but it was crushed for a 3 run HR. He shows an outstanding curveball and change, but the fastest pitch I saw him throw all day was timed at 84 MPH. I just don't see that translating to Big league success.
docjj
DSL Orioles
 
Posts: 167
Joined: January 2011
Reputation Score: 3

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #4 by docjj » May 25th, 2011, 11:54 am

No chance Kolton Wong falls to the second round. He's a late first rounder, or supplemental pick at worst. I'd be thrilled to get Esposito, Tyler Anderson or Kevin Cron with the 2nd round pick...
docjj
DSL Orioles
 
Posts: 167
Joined: January 2011
Reputation Score: 3

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #5 by Don » May 25th, 2011, 12:01 pm

In my ranks, Wong sits in the 60's. Wong sits on most lists in the 70's. While he could be gone with signability not being an issue, it should not be total surprise to you that he would be available in the second round.
User avatar
Don
Orioles Nation Staff
Director of Scouting
GCL Orioles
 
Posts: 699
Joined: September 2010
Reputation Score: 25

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #6 by Don » May 25th, 2011, 12:21 pm

Three guys that I hear are dropping like flies at the moment that could be solid options for round 2, if the Orioles like them and want to spend the money.

Matt Purke, Blake Swihart, and Austin Hedges

Purke has some sling action in his delivery and already concerns of injuries with larger workload. Still the kid can sling it. I like him as a late inning specialist that could advance quickly as did Dan Klein. You simply have to take the risk, but bullpen arms do not throw as often. Less throws, less risk....

Swihart and Hedges could be worth while options because simply look at Joe Mauer right now and think of the bonus it would be to spell Weiters days to prolong his catching career. You can never have enough left handed pitching and catchers in your system.
User avatar
Don
Orioles Nation Staff
Director of Scouting
GCL Orioles
 
Posts: 699
Joined: September 2010
Reputation Score: 25

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #7 by Wingman » May 25th, 2011, 1:27 pm

Don,

Thanks for the info, I'll definately look around...

If Purke fell to us that would be sick... even if he's just a reliever, he would be great value.
Wingman
DSL Orioles
 
Posts: 5
Joined: May 2011
Reputation Score: 0

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #8 by Don » May 25th, 2011, 1:31 pm

No problem...I think in that huge list on the 2011 prospects are my thoughts about the types of players that fit Joe Jordan's mold of toolsy athletic hybrid types (Givens, Avery, etc...) and some of the power arms that he likes to risk over his scouting and drafting time.

If I find the exact slot location, I will append it to this one.
User avatar
Don
Orioles Nation Staff
Director of Scouting
GCL Orioles
 
Posts: 699
Joined: September 2010
Reputation Score: 25

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #9 by ofahn » May 25th, 2011, 9:43 pm

Regardless of which players are available to us I hope that Andy Mac is given a BIG budget to work with. There's a lot of talent in this draft and we may see some sign-ability players that will fall into the second through fifth round than can be had for double or triple slot money.

In the 2007 draft we picked Jake Arrieta in the fifth round (after losing the second, third and fourth picks for signing Walker, Baez, and Bradford) for I believe something north of a million dollars. He an Wieters may be the only two MLB regulars we see from that draft.
User avatar
ofahn
Aberdeen IronBirds
 
Posts: 4375
Joined: May 2011
Reputation Score: 85

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #10 by Wingman » May 26th, 2011, 7:40 am

ofahn wrote:Regardless of which players are available to us I hope that Andy Mac is given a BIG budget to work with. There's a lot of talent in this draft and we may see some sign-ability players that will fall into the second through fifth round than can be had for double or triple slot money.

In the 2007 draft we picked Jake Arrieta in the fifth round (after losing the second, third and fourth picks for signing Walker, Baez, and Bradford) for I believe something north of a million dollars. He an Wieters may be the only two MLB regulars we see from that draft.


I completely agree... We need to really make a splash this year... Which brings up another issue I've been thinking about lately. Will Jordan's draft "philosophy" change at all this year because we have one less farm team (Bluefield) than in years past? (Actually we have 2 less farm teams if you count the DSL) I'd like to hope we have more flexibility to go after more high ceiling/high school players because we don't have as much need for organizational players to fill out as many farm teams.
Wingman
DSL Orioles
 
Posts: 5
Joined: May 2011
Reputation Score: 0

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #11 by Don » May 26th, 2011, 10:45 am

Do you guys realize how rare it is to get two major league players that might have the staying power in one draft? It turns scouting director's into General Managers and is quite an accomplishment.

In the 2007 draft, I suspect Joe Mahoney, Matt Angle, Dan Klein (was draft and re-draft), and Brandon Cooney all have the chance to join those two in the near future.

Again, not ever player can be an All-Star, much less an every day player, but if they can at least have the opportunity to contribute to the parent club it should be considered successful.
User avatar
Don
Orioles Nation Staff
Director of Scouting
GCL Orioles
 
Posts: 699
Joined: September 2010
Reputation Score: 25

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #12 by Rising O's » May 28th, 2011, 9:37 am

I'd love to get Jason Esposito in the 2nd round. Worst case he ends up at 2nd.
Rising O's
GCL Orioles
 
Posts: 984
Joined: April 2011
Reputation Score: 10

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #13 by Gator » June 7th, 2011, 11:31 am

Rising O's wrote:I'd love to get Jason Esposito in the 2nd round. Worst case he ends up at 2nd.


ask and you shall receive. i think this is a great pick for us in the 2nd round
Gator
DSL Orioles
 
Posts: 13
Joined: December 2010
Reputation Score: 0

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #14 by Rising O's » June 7th, 2011, 12:00 pm

Sweet, welcome to Baltimore Jason!
Rising O's
GCL Orioles
 
Posts: 984
Joined: April 2011
Reputation Score: 10

Re: 2nd Round Pick

PostPost #15 by A_K » June 7th, 2011, 12:09 pm

Ha! I thought his name sounded familiar.
A_K
GCL Orioles
 
Posts: 608
Joined: April 2011
Reputation Score: 43


Next

Return to MLB Draft

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron