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D'Backs Want Young Pitching From O's For Kubel

D'Backs Want Young Pitching From O's For Kubel

PostPost #1 by osforlife » January 5th, 2013, 7:21 pm

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/d ... kubel.html

The Diamondbacks are looking to get young pitching from the Orioles in a trade for outfielder Jason Kubel, but Baltimore has been disinclined to do that to this point, tweets Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. Arizona has a surplus of outfielders and some believe that they would prefer to trade Kubel than Justin Upton at this stage.

Kubel hit .253/.327/.506 with a career-high 30 home runs in 141 games with Arizona last year. The 30-year-old is due to earn $7.5MM in 2013 with a mutual option for the same amount in 2014.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/d ... tt3MysI.99


No thankyou. I wouldn't even give up Matusz, our youngest pitcher with the lowest value IMO, for one year of Kubel.
1.) only one more year left on his contract
2.) bad defensively
3.) would HARDLY be an upgrade over Betemit or McLouth
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Re: D'Backs Want Young Pitching From O's For Kubel

PostPost #2 by ofahn » January 5th, 2013, 7:28 pm

Between the bad defense and low OBA I don't see him as a match.
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PostPost #3 by Jordan Tuwiner » January 6th, 2013, 5:28 pm

ofahn wrote:Between the bad defense and low OBA I don't see him as a match.

He's a nice piece but doesn't really match the team's needs.
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Re: D'Backs Want Young Pitching From O's For Kubel

PostPost #4 by ofahn » January 6th, 2013, 5:32 pm

Jordan Tuwiner wrote:He's a nice piece but doesn't really match the team's needs.


With all due respect to Mark Reynolds, who worked hard to be a team player, Kubel just seems like another Mark Reynolds was when he first came here. I'd like to think we have moved on from that.
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PostPost #5 by birdwatcher55 » January 7th, 2013, 12:58 pm

I would pass on Kubel. Now Upton is another matter open for discussion 8-)
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PostPost #6 by ofahn » January 7th, 2013, 2:20 pm

birdwatcher55 wrote:I would pass on Kubel. Now Upton is another matter open for discussion 8-)


IMO giving up a bunch of talent for Upton (an OF) make LESS sense than giving up our first round pick for LaRoche.
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PostPost #7 by birdwatcher55 » January 7th, 2013, 7:40 pm

ofahn wrote:
IMO giving up a bunch of talent for Upton (an OF) make LESS sense than giving up our first round pick for LaRoche.
upton might be worth the pitching talent it would require. Bundy aside, I would explore the possibilities because of the great offensive potential 8-)
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PostPost #8 by dan72 » January 7th, 2013, 9:59 pm

Kubel is a hard NO. Upton is atractive because of his age. His stats would most likely improve playing in Camden Yards
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PostPost #9 by ofahn » January 7th, 2013, 10:09 pm

dan72 wrote:Upton is atractive because of his age. His stats would most likely improve playing in Camden Yards


Maybe so, but at what price?
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PostPost #10 by Jordan Tuwiner » January 7th, 2013, 10:37 pm

dan72 wrote:Kubel is a hard NO. Upton is atractive because of his age. His stats would most likely improve playing in Camden Yards

Arizona is actually one of the better parks for hitters.

http://www.fangraphs.com/guts.aspx?type ... eason=2011
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PostPost #11 by birdwatcher55 » January 8th, 2013, 12:27 pm

According to Rosenthal, we made an aggressive push for Upton recently but talks have cooled. Speculation has it AZ wanted Bundy or Machado and we said "Good Day" and rightfully so. I wonder if Arrieta, Matusz and Schoop could get this done since Gausman cannot be moved right now??? 8-)
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PostPost #12 by ofahn » January 8th, 2013, 2:10 pm

birdwatcher55 wrote:I wonder if Arrieta, Matusz and Schoop could get this done


I hope not.
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PostPost #13 by osforlife » January 23rd, 2013, 6:16 pm

Orioles are reportedly pursuing Jason Kubel again. Please no, I don't see how all of these reporters think he is a great fit.
Nate McLouth will play left field against RHP.
Wilson Betemit will DH against RHP.
Where is the great fit?
Nate McLouth Career Batting Line Against RHP: .257/.346/.447/.793- provides above average defense & speed
Wilson Betemit Career Batting Line Against RHP: .281/.349/.474/.824
Jason Kubel Career Batting Line Against RHP: .279/.343/.498/.841- will have to take on his salary and give up an arm
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PostPost #14 by Seafordeagles » January 23rd, 2013, 6:20 pm

osforlife wrote:Orioles are reportedly pursuing Jason Kubel again. Please no, I don't see how all of these reporters think he is a great fit.
Nate McLouth will play left field against RHP.
Wilson Betemit will DH against RHP.
Where is the great fit?
Nate McLouth Career Batting Line Against RHP: .257/.346/.447/.793- provides above average defense & speed
Wilson Betemit Career Batting Line Against RHP: .281/.349/.474/.824
Jason Kubel Career Batting Line Against RHP: .279/.343/.498/.841- will have to take on his salary and give up an arm


If I had to weigh my opinion I would say that the Orioles brass isn't convinced about Reimold. It's also hard to overlook 30 homeruns and 90 rbis. Especially if the this statement is true from MLB Rumors:

"The asking price for Kubel is dropping and Baltimore would be a logical landing spot for him, Olney tweets. Earlier today it was reported that the O's are pursuing Kubel but talks are not yet at an advanced stage."
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Re: D'Backs Want Young Pitching From O's For Kubel

PostPost #15 by osforlife » January 23rd, 2013, 6:42 pm

Seafordeagles wrote:
If I had to weigh my opinion I would say that the Orioles brass isn't convinced about Reimold. It's also hard to overlook 30 homeruns and 90 rbis. Especially if the this statement is true from MLB Rumors:

"The asking price for Kubel is dropping and Baltimore would be a logical landing spot for him, Olney tweets. Earlier today it was reported that the O's are pursuing Kubel but talks are not yet at an advanced stage."


I don't really see how this has anything to do with Reimold. If management was worried about Reimold, then they would be going after a right-handed bat. I doubt he will repeat his 30 homeruns. He ran in to a power streak July and that supplied about a third of his bombs. He has been close to 30 homeruns only one other time in his career. He provides no defensive value, no speed, and little production against LHP. AKA a more expensive, less versatile Wilson Betemit.
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