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"Marlins and Orioles discussing scenarios"

"Marlins and Orioles discussing scenarios"

PostPost #1 by Jordan Tuwiner » July 24th, 2012, 1:11 pm

https://twitter.com/nickcafardo/statuse ... 9559149571

Marlins and Orioles discussing scenarios.


Whatever this means.
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PostPost #2 by Tucker Blair » July 24th, 2012, 1:20 pm

I'm not going to lie, the thought of Hanley in an Orioles uni makes me very excited.
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PostPost #3 by BmoreShank » July 24th, 2012, 1:29 pm

Hanley on this team is a pretty interesting thought to me. He's got some pop in that bat.
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PostPost #4 by Shad.Knows » July 24th, 2012, 1:33 pm

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PostPost #5 by ofahn » July 24th, 2012, 1:34 pm

Jordan Tuwiner wrote:https://twitter.com/nickcafardo/statuses/227826739559149571



Whatever this means.


I have it on solid authority that we've offered them ten pounds of lump crab meat for six pounds of carne asado, a pot of cafe cubano, and a postre to be named later.
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PostPost #6 by Matt P » July 24th, 2012, 1:35 pm

Offensively he has been down for the last 2 seasons and he's not good defensively at 3B. I'm not saying he is bad but I wouldn't want to give up a lot for him based on what he once was.
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PostPost #7 by Jordan Tuwiner » July 24th, 2012, 1:36 pm

Shad.Knows wrote:https://twitter.com/JohnBurns_MLB/status/227832043550162945

https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm/sta ... 8871519232

I just saw these two, if anyone hasn't yet.

Wow. Thanks for posting these. Guessing it could even be both packaged together.
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PostPost #8 by Tucker Blair » July 24th, 2012, 1:37 pm

Matt P wrote:Offensively he has been down for the last 2 seasons and he's not good defensively at 3B. I'm not saying he is bad but I wouldn't want to give up a lot for him based on what he once was.


I think Hanley is your prototypical "bounceback" trade target.
I know Don mentioned on twitter he thought Josh Johnson was the same.

As long as Bundy or Machado are not traded for either, I don't have a problem if they got either of Hanley or Josh. Of course, I'll hold my reaction towards this until I see what/if anything happens
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PostPost #9 by ofahn » July 24th, 2012, 1:38 pm

BmoreShank wrote:Hanley on this team is a pretty interesting thought to me. He's got some pop in that bat.


Where would you have him play? He didn't adapt to 3B. He hasn't been a solid defender at SS for a couple of years, and we don't have an opening at DH. Even if we did I find it difficult to believe that ego would accept being a DH at this point in his career.

The ONLY way I could see this working is if Buck sticks his foot WAY up Hanley's butt and tells him to cut the s**t and play ball like a ML 3B.
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PostPost #10 by Tucker Blair » July 24th, 2012, 1:40 pm

Hanley's D at 3B shouldn't be a problem for the orioles! The bat is an upgrade so he can easily be an upgrade.

I've always been intrigued by the thought of moving Hanley to LF. Way way way jumping ahead here, but just have always thought that Marlins should test it.
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PostPost #11 by Matt P » July 24th, 2012, 1:51 pm

Hanley - .246/.322/.430 14hr

Betemit - .255/.322/.422 11hr

He hasn't been much better than Betemit this season. Talent wise it's not even close but he hasn't performed up to his talent since 2010.

Again, maybe I'm crazy, but I'd rather trade for Headley than trade for Hanley.
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PostPost #12 by ofahn » July 24th, 2012, 1:52 pm

TuckerBlair89 wrote:I've always been intrigued by the thought of moving Hanley to LF.


How would HE react to that? His attitude towards moving to 3B this year hasn't been a shining example of "team first". Would the middle of a pennant race be the best time to make such a transition?
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PostPost #13 by Tucker Blair » July 24th, 2012, 1:53 pm

Matt P wrote:Hanley - .246/.322/.430 14hr

Betemit - .255/.322/.422 11hr

He hasn't been much better than Betemit this season. Talent wise it's not even close but he hasn't performed up to his talent since 2010.

Again, maybe I'm crazy, but I'd rather trade for Headley than trade for Hanley.


Not crazy. Just think Headley actually might cost more at this stage. And with Hanley you hope he gains his old form (you also probably pay for that too)

I also have been advocating that Betemit has been better than people realized this year. Imagine if he wasn't forced into roles he shouldnt have been in
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PostPost #14 by Shad.Knows » July 24th, 2012, 1:55 pm

https://twitter.com/Manny_Navarro/statu ... 5755229184

According to that tweet the asking price for Hanley "isn't ridiculous", so if we can get him for something reasonable (that's not named Bundy and Machado), I'd take it in a second.
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PostPost #15 by OriolesRedskins28 » July 24th, 2012, 1:56 pm

I would greatly prefer Josh Johnson to Hanley. Hanley is a notorious "bad clubhouse" guy and underacheiver, doesn't play good defense at 3B, and hasn't been anything special offensively over the past 2 years.

From Dave Cameron on Fangraphs:

"The Orioles also have been mentioned as a possibility, but Wilson Betemit offers a very similar average-offense-and-bad-defense combination at the hot corner"

The entire article which is focused on potential fits for Hanley: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... y-ramirez/

I would like to see the O's get Johnson and Carlos lee in a deal with the Marlins. Johnson is injury prone but is a true ace IMO (although unproven in the AL) and Lee would be an upgrade over Reynolds at 1B.
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