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Sources: Orioles working to finalize deal with Jimenez

Re: Sources: Orioles working to finalize deal with Jimenez

PostPost #16 by thezeroes » February 18th, 2014, 6:56 pm

Old Sneakers wrote: If any of the starting five in the rotation go down for several starts due to injury then Gausman, Wright or Rodriguez will get called up. Wasting options and valuable development time.


Just to clarify:

Gausman is already on the forty man and if sent to Norfolk (hopefully) he will use one of his options but if he was wasted in the bullpen all year with an occasional start he would retain both of his remaining options.

Both Wright and Rodriguez are not on the forty so they would first have to be placed on the forty before being activated to the Twenty-Five. If they were to stay with the Orioles all year they would not waste an option. If they were returned to Norfolk an option would be used. If up and stay it would be the same as them being added for rule 5 purposes this next winter, the option would only be used if returned.

If both are placed on the forty this winter because of the rule 5 draft the clock would begin on the options next spring.
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Re: Sources: Orioles working to finalize deal with Jimenez

PostPost #17 by Seafordeagles » February 18th, 2014, 6:59 pm

Old Sneakers wrote:
Chen and Gonzalez are not true inning eating types. Yes, they have value but they are also prone to the effects of a long season. Jimenez also isn't a inning eater. If any of the starting five in the rotation go down for several starts due to injury then Gausman, Wright or Rodriguez will get called up. Wasting options and valuable development time. I honestly see 2013 as a wasted year for Gausman and do not want to see that happen to him again. Remember his ceiling is that of an ace. He won't live up to that unless he gets real time in Norfolk.

It doesn't have to be that way. If perhaps Yoon can get a few spot starts here and there and do well. This wasting options scenario can be avoided. If someone other than Hunter closes, then he also becomes a solid option. Once Burnett was signed I was more in favor of signing multiple replacement players. They would have come cheap and without the loss of a draft choice.


If any of those go down with injury you also have Steve Johnson and Zach Britton. This is the perfect scenario leading into 2015. That would give Gausman a full year in AAA and will allow us to see if Bundy will be ready as well. It also allows Rodriquez, Berry, etc to mature and not be rushed to the big leagues.

It's a nice problem to have. Who knows in 2015 the Orioles may be able to have surplus arms that could be dealt for other pieces that make the puzzle complete.
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Re: Sources: Orioles working to finalize deal with Jimenez

PostPost #18 by Old Sneakers » February 19th, 2014, 12:23 am

Seafordeagles wrote:
If any of those go down with injury you also have Steve Johnson and Zach Britton. This is the perfect scenario leading into 2015. That would give Gausman a full year in AAA and will allow us to see if Bundy will be ready as well. It also allows Rodriquez, Berry, etc to mature and not be rushed to the big leagues.

It's a nice problem to have. Who knows in 2015 the Orioles may be able to have surplus arms that could be dealt for other pieces that make the puzzle complete.


Steve Johnson is a possibility. Even as a reliever, spot starter he did very well for the team in 2012. Last season didn't go so well. As for Britton, he's out of options so it's likely long relief for him.

On the horizon it's Gausman, Wright and Rodriguez in that order (as far as who's likely to be ready first). But it's a deep drop off after those three. They are young and inexpensive. My guess is that Chen would be the most likely to be dangled in a trade if there were somehow a surplus of arms. He's expensive and left handed. A team hurting might want him. The Orioles might part with him for a nice return. The young and inexpensive part of this being the deciding factor. All this is conjecture and a lot will have to happen before it's even a possibility.

As for this year, I still think Norris makes or breaks this rotation. If he exceeds expectations then the rotation will end up a strength. If not then I'll be proven wrong and his doubters correct.
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Re: Sources: Orioles working to finalize deal with Jimenez

PostPost #19 by ofahn » February 21st, 2014, 12:12 pm

Old Sneakers wrote:I still think Norris makes or breaks this rotation

With the status quo I agree with you; HOWEVER, IMO the real litmus test for what kind of year we're going to have is whether we NEED Norris in the rotation. If for some reason we have five better options than him then we would have contender caliber SP.
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Re: Sources: Orioles working to finalize deal with Jimenez

PostPost #20 by osforlife » February 21st, 2014, 5:13 pm

ofahn wrote:If for some reason we have five better options than him then we would have contender caliber SP.

Baltimore just might! Jimenez, Chen, Gonzalez, Tillman, Yoon. Yoon is questionable though.
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