The Orioles wanted to bring back McLouth, who signed a one-year, $2 million deal during last year's Winter Meetings. However, early projections had him getting $10 million over two years.
No further details are available at the moment, but the deal is believed to be in the $10-$11 million range.
Good for him.
McLouth batted .258/.329/.399 with 12 homers, 36 RBIs and 30 stolen bases.
osforlife wrote:I'd say Nate McLouth is basically worth that money; maybe it was a slight overpay. But it was still a good deal for the Nationals. I've always thought it's smart to carry four outfielders capable of starting on a baseball team, maybe five it it's a national league. I bet Corey Brown is now available! I'd be interesting in attaining him. Bryce Harper, Jayson Werth, Denard Span, Nate McLouth, Scott Hairston, and Eury Perez are ahead of him on the depth chart. He's proven he can hit at AAA.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minor ... own-002cor
He can hit for power, steal a good amount of bases, and I'm sure he hits RHP very well.
You make some good points. You think "it's smart to carry four outfielders capable of starting on a baseball team" like the nationals are doing. When it comes to the Orioles you want guys like Brown and Dyson that can be had fairly cheap. Why won't the Orioles want to carry four outfielders capable of starting? Why are the Orioles not going after major league players and stars with good track records? Please don't say it's the money. I know better, you know better, and everyone knows better. The Orioles are not poor even though they want everyone to think they are.
Seafordeagles wrote:Attendance has nothing to do with what and how much he spends. angelos makes a lot of money that's not tied to attendance figures. Try looking at attendance figures when Angelos DID SPEND MONEY................
osforlife wrote:I found this very article very useful; http://www.askmen.com/sports/business/1 ... iness.html
I'd say a proper thesis would be; If attendance numbers increase, then so will the team payroll. Not; If the team payroll increases, then so will the attendance numbers.
You may want to send this link to Peter Schmuck. Please read his article I posted earlier.
osforlife wrote:Basically my reaction from that article is...do fans/writers realize the off-season is not over? Fans complain every year, with the heart of it coming before the winter meetings even start. They get pissed off that the GM hasn't overpaid for an aging star, and instead has simply made depth moves. The only way to please them would be to start the off-season out with a bang, and then fill out the depth. There's nothing wrong with adding depth, and then filling a hole. It's almost like Oriole fans want to give up a first round pick in order to pay a diminishing 37 year old outfielder/DH $15MM a year for the player he used to be, not the player he will be. Orioles signed Wei Yen Chen on Jaunary 10th of 2012. JJ Hardy was acquired three years ago today. Orioles signed Tsuyoshi Wada on December 14th, 2011. There is such a thing as making a major league transaction past November and/or the first week of December. I say the Orioles attendance and payroll practically is identical in terms of MLB rank, but you say Peter Angelos makes money from stuff other than tickets. Then I provide an article of everything the owner has to pay for other than the opening day payroll. Yet, you still insist he's being cheap because he hasn't made a major move? The off-season is not over yet.
osforlife wrote:I'm no expert in economics, but what makes you think Angelos is rolling in cash? Doesn't team payroll relate to average attendance?
Attendance; Team Payroll
2013- 18th; 15th
2012- 20th; 19th
2011- 26th; 18th
2010- 24th; 17th
2009- 21st; 23rd
2008- 24th; 22nd
2007- 23rd; 10th
2006- 20th; 15th
2005- 14th; 14th
2004- 12th; 20th
2003- 12th; 13th
2002- 10th; 16th
2001- 6th; 12th
Average- 17th; 16th. It doesn't seem like he's being cheap to me, as his attendance and team payroll match up just about perfectly. This is not 1997/1998. The economy was booming during Clinton's presidency. Demographics have changed most likely. Things change. Angelos is putting forth the money that the attendance offers him. I don't think an owner would be able to sustain a top ten payroll with not even a top fifteen attendance. The higher the attendance, the higher the payroll. As you can see in 2011-2013, a higher payroll does not necessarily mean a higher total of wins. The fact of the matter is, although the Orioles were a high payroll team in the late 90's, as I'm sure they were a top ten attendance team, they are no longer a top payroll team. The Orioles are a mid-market team. Until the attendance increases, the payroll won't. Fans come to see wins, not players. The off-season isn't even over. What makes you think Angelos doesn't want win?
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