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What Should The Orioles Do With Jonathon Schoop?

Re: What Should The Orioles Do With Jonathon Schoop?

PostPost #16 by osforlife » May 4th, 2013, 3:24 pm

JJ Hardy has been terrible this season. He plays great defense, but he needs to hit a little to provide value. I haven't seen that many games this season, but he has three errors through thirty games. I haven't seen the errors, but he misplayed six balls in 158 games last year. I expect him to play better defense, but he needs to hit a little. Give me a .230/.280/.400 batting line, not a .191/.230/.304. The Cardinals, a team that might be interested in JJ Hardy later on, has Pete Kozma, who is hitting .261/.314/.337. Pete freaking Kozma is hitting MUCH better than the beloved JJ Hardy. Our middle infield has been exceptionally bad this season. And the sad thing is, we have nobody better to replace them.
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Re: What Should The Orioles Do With Jonathon Schoop?

PostPost #17 by thezeroes » May 4th, 2013, 8:02 pm

osforlife wrote:Pete freaking Kozma is hitting MUCH better than the beloved JJ Hardy.


Just as an interesting tidbit, have you looked at the career stat line for JJ Hardy??
April/March 0.218 BA 0.283 OBP 0.356 SLG 0.640 OPS
May 0.274 BA 0.332 OBP 0.445 SLG 0.777 OPS
June 0.250 BA 0.309 OBP 0.430 SLG 0.739 OPS
July 0.255 BA 0.305 OBP 0.416 SLG 0.721 OPS
August 0.276 BA 0.321 OBP 0.474 SLG 0.795 OPS
Sept/Oct 0.275 BA 0.320 OBP 0.433 SLG 0.753 OPS

As you can plainly see if you are willing to look things up, that James Jerry Hardy does NOT get out of the gate well.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... Career&t=b
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Re: What Should The Orioles Do With Jonathon Schoop?

PostPost #18 by ofahn » May 4th, 2013, 8:15 pm

osforlife wrote:Pete freaking Kozma is hitting MUCH better than the beloved JJ Hardy.


At this point in the season you're right, but IMO the difference in gloves is worth 150 OPS points.
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Re: What Should The Orioles Do With Jonathon Schoop?

PostPost #19 by osforlife » May 4th, 2013, 8:55 pm

thezeroes wrote:
Just as an interesting tidbit, have you looked at the career stat line for JJ Hardy??
April/March 0.218 BA 0.283 OBP 0.356 SLG 0.640 OPS
May 0.274 BA 0.332 OBP 0.445 SLG 0.777 OPS
June 0.250 BA 0.309 OBP 0.430 SLG 0.739 OPS
July 0.255 BA 0.305 OBP 0.416 SLG 0.721 OPS
August 0.276 BA 0.321 OBP 0.474 SLG 0.795 OPS
Sept/Oct 0.275 BA 0.320 OBP 0.433 SLG 0.753 OPS

As you can plainly see if you are willing to look things up, that James Jerry Hardy does NOT get out of the gate well.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... Career&t=b

I'm not trying to say Pete Kozma is a better hitter than JJ Hardy. JJ Hardy is a much better hitter than Pete Kozma. JJ Hardy, in his the worst two years of his career, hit .229 .302 .357 & .238 .282 .389. In two seasons in AAA, Pete Kozma hit .223 .286 .324. JJ Hardy is a better offensive & defensive player. I kind of said that statement jokingly, to show how terrible Hardy has hit so far, because Kozma is absolutely horrid at the plate. As long as JJ Hardy hits for power, he can be a very valuable because he plays great defense too. He doesn't have speed or good plate discipline, so he lives off power and defense. When you take away the power(.389 SLUG%), he becomes a much less valuable player. Hopefully he bounces back and continues his career trend.
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Re: What Should The Orioles Do With Jonathon Schoop?

PostPost #20 by birdwatcher55 » May 6th, 2013, 12:24 pm

I think JJ Hardy will be fine. He had a nice game Sunday. He's still good for 30 HRs and will give you Gold Glove play at SS. Those guys are in short supply. That is why I laugh at the ridiculous suggestions on this board that we need to trade him 8-)
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