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Arrieta: Lock for #5???

Re: Arrieta: Lock for #5???

PostPost #31 by Rising O's » March 18th, 2013, 10:57 pm

Getting those 3, starters innings is in the best interest of the club. Their value is increased and a good half season makes them valuable trade chips if the Orioles look like serious contenders in June. Steve Johnson would work for me. But so would Matusz since it would open a lefty spot for McFarland. Its a great question we are waiting to see answered.
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Re: Arrieta: Lock for #5???

PostPost #32 by birdwatcher55 » March 19th, 2013, 11:14 am

I really like Steve Johnson a lot. People keep writing this guy off and yet he comes up big in most starts.. 8-)
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Re: Arrieta: Lock for #5???

PostPost #33 by Old Sneakers » March 23rd, 2013, 3:11 am

I have a sneaking suspicion that the matter is already decided. At least for Zach Britton. He seems to have played himself out of it for now. No comment on a fix either.

Brian Matusz has not had a bad spring and I won't put him down. Though I suspect giving up two home runs whereas Jake Arrieta has surrendered zero and Steve Johnson only one is a factor.

I really think it's Steve Johnson or Jake Arrieta.
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Re: Arrieta: Lock for #5???

PostPost #34 by ofahn » March 24th, 2013, 1:45 pm

Well, if the decision HASN'T been made, Matusz didn't do himself any favors today.
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PostPost #35 by LA Detective » March 24th, 2013, 3:31 pm

I'm suprised how it is shaping up. I still think JA needs some AAA time to ensure his is fixed and gains some confidence dominating. Of course, it wouldn't be suprising if he came out and pitched like our ace from beginning. The question will be if he can maintain it.

If JA makes it and McFarland is the 7th man in the Pen, our AAA staff will be SJohnson, Britton, Matusz and Jurrjens with Bundy, Gausman and Wada not far behind. They could make a good MLB staff on their own the 2nd half of the year! It could be easier picking the March Madness final four than who the starting 5 will be in September..
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Re: Arrieta: Lock for #5???

PostPost #36 by Old Sneakers » March 24th, 2013, 3:52 pm

ofahn wrote:Well, if the decision HASN'T been made, Matusz didn't do himself any favors today.


Neither did Patton. So, T.J. McFarland anyone?
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Re: Arrieta: Lock for #5???

PostPost #37 by ofahn » March 24th, 2013, 4:10 pm

Old Sneakers wrote:
Neither did Patton. So, T.J. McFarland anyone?


In a regular season game Patton would have been pulled long before all of that damage took place and there's a good chance that the reliever that inherited his runners would have stranded them.

That being said, I think there's a better than average chance McFarland makes this club and his odds will go up if he has a strong start tomorrow.
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PostPost #38 by osforlife » March 24th, 2013, 4:26 pm

Man, that would be a slap in the face to Steve Johnson if he doesn't make the team. What does the man have to prove in AAA? He pitched dominantly in the majors and minors, far better than any of Britton, Arrieta, and Matusz. Steve Johnson deserves it, throw out the damn spring training stats.
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Re: Arrieta: Lock for #5???

PostPost #39 by ofahn » March 24th, 2013, 4:42 pm

osforlife wrote:Man, that would be a slap in the face to Steve Johnson if he doesn't make the team. What does the man have to prove in AAA? He pitched dominantly in the majors and minors, far better than any of Britton, Arrieta, and Matusz. Steve Johnson deserves it, throw out the damn spring training stats.


If I were making the decisions I would either trade Arrieta for Olt or I would send him to Norfolk to finish his development. I would make Steve Johnson the 5th SP and McFarland the long guy IF he holds up tomorrow.

Before anyone has their head explode over this I would like to remind you that we will probably be hitting the Reset Button in a month or so as Jurrjens and one of the "Cavalry" show they're ready.
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PostPost #40 by A_K » March 24th, 2013, 5:19 pm

At this point it's safe to say we know who our fifth starter is. What's left to learn is whether they keep Matusz as a starter for the time being, sending him to AAA, and if that gives McFarland a chance to prove himself as a lefty specialist/long-man in the bullpen to start the season. I'd be surprised if Johnson doesn't end up in Norfolk.

One thing worth keeping in mind is that spring training competitions of all kinds are largely irrelevant. Sure, a good March can get you a 25-man spot to start the season, but a bad April will get you bounced back down just as quickly. In the end, talent wins out. There's a symbolic significance to breaking spring with the team, but it's ultimately not a very relevant accomplishment, unless you continue performing once the season starts.
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