Morales still #Angels player most likely to go. Desired return: Innings-eating SP. Morales won't get qualifying offer as FA at end of '13.
Post #31 by Jordan Tuwiner » December 19th, 2012, 1:47 pm
Morales still #Angels player most likely to go. Desired return: Innings-eating SP. Morales won't get qualifying offer as FA at end of '13.
Post #32 by Seafordeagles » December 19th, 2012, 1:52 pm
ofahn wrote:
No, you wouldn't.
Post #33 by ofahn » December 19th, 2012, 2:07 pm
Seafordeagles wrote:
Evidently the Angels are seeking an "innings eater". I think this kind of throws your opinion out the window. It would have to be one of the four I mentioned and I would not do that for a one year rental. As you know Boras NEVER signs extensions during a "walk" year.
Post #34 by Seafordeagles » December 19th, 2012, 2:27 pm
ofahn wrote:
First, I don't WANT to sign Morales to an extension. Particularly, one that Boras sees as "fair".
Second, the Angels have a better chance of finding (buying) an "innings eater" SP at a fair price on the market this winter. Have you seen what Middle relievers are signing for? With a lean farm system LA SHOULD be looking for legit bullpen pieces. Two serious prospects would make a difference for them.
Post #35 by A_K » December 19th, 2012, 2:30 pm
Post #36 by ofahn » December 19th, 2012, 2:37 pm
Seafordeagles wrote: Do you want Morales for just one season?
Post #37 by ofahn » December 19th, 2012, 2:43 pm
A_K wrote:If they want an innings eater, why wouldn't they just sign Joe Saunders and hang on to Morales?
Post #38 by docjj » December 19th, 2012, 2:51 pm
Post #39 by Seafordeagles » December 19th, 2012, 3:24 pm
ofahn wrote:
Yes. If he has a big year I would make him a qualifying offer. He accepts, we get a solid player at market rate on a one year contract. He declines, we get a draft pick. Win-win.
Post #40 by Seafordeagles » December 19th, 2012, 3:26 pm
docjj wrote:Like any prospective deal, it depends on who we'd have to give up. I think a one-year rental of Morales could be a very good deal. He's a switch hitter with pop. Yes, he can't run anymore. Yes, he can't field well. But stick him in at cleanup as DH and call it a day.
Markakis/McLouth
Hardy
Jones
Morales
Wieters
Davis
Machado
Reimold/Mclouth
2nd baseman (Roberts, Flaherty, Casilla, etc...)
Post #41 by Jordan Tuwiner » December 19th, 2012, 5:10 pm
Source: #Angels have traded Kendrys Morales to the #Mariners for SP Jason Vargas.
Post #42 by Seafordeagles » December 19th, 2012, 6:54 pm
Jordan Tuwiner wrote:https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/281520807321149440
Post #43 by A_K » December 19th, 2012, 7:40 pm
Post #44 by Seafordeagles » December 19th, 2012, 7:48 pm
A_K wrote:Vargas last year: 4.69 FIP, 0.8 WAR, 217 innings.
Saunders last year: 4.08 FIP, 2.5 WAR, 174 innings.
I'm nowhere close to the world's biggest Saunders fan, and in reality I don't care whether or not the Orioles re-sign him. But what sense does it make to trade a good young hitter like Morales for a pitcher like Vargas, when you could just sign Saunders for a reasonable price and hang on to Morales for another year? I don't get it.
Post #45 by ofahn » December 19th, 2012, 8:09 pm
Seafordeagles wrote:
Maybe just maybe they didn't want Saunders.
A_K wrote:Vargas last year: 4.69 FIP, 0.8 WAR, 217 innings.
Saunders last year: 4.08 FIP, 2.5 WAR, 174 innings.
I'm nowhere close to the world's biggest Saunders fan, and in reality I don't care whether or not the Orioles re-sign him. But what sense does it make to trade a good young hitter like Morales for a pitcher like Vargas, when you could just sign Saunders for a reasonable price and hang on to Morales for another year? I don't get it.
I could see them trading him if:
1) they believe they can't find a market for Wells
2) they believe they need to add some ML ready (or almost ready) bull pen pieces
3) Boras advises him to become a squeaky wheel so he can get out of LA and be assured of playing time in his contract year
I can easily see any of those things happening.
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