Matt P wrote:

Without getting to much into it I would rate Hammel as a #2, Tillman and Chen as #3's, Matusz and Britton as #4's.

Tillman and Britton IMO have the highest ceilings. Matusz is a toss up as a starter. Chen and Hammel are what they are.

Without getting to much into it I would rate Hammel as a #2, Tillman and Chen as #3's, Matusz and Britton as #4's.

Tillman and Britton IMO have the highest ceilings. Matusz is a toss up as a starter. Chen and Hammel are what they are.

Ok, now I understand where the disconnect was. I was citing what I thought their POTENTIAL was, not where they are now.

Statistics: Posted by ofahn — October 10th, 2012, 4:24 pm

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ofahn wrote:

I'd be interested in how you rate each of them, and why.

I'd be interested in how you rate each of them, and why.

Without getting to much into it I would rate Hammel as a #2, Tillman and Chen as #3's, Matusz and Britton as #4's.

Tillman and Britton IMO have the highest ceilings. Matusz is a toss up as a starter. Chen and Hammel are what they are.

Statistics: Posted by Matt P — October 10th, 2012, 4:15 pm

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Matt P wrote:

I don't know about solid #2's. Maybe a couple of them could but I see most of them as #3's.

I don't know about solid #2's. Maybe a couple of them could but I see most of them as #3's.

I'd be interested in how you rate each of them, and why.

Statistics: Posted by ofahn — October 10th, 2012, 3:41 pm

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ofahn wrote:

...and if he does he will be a real stud next year. IMO Chen, Hammel, Tillman, Matusz, and Britton all have the qualities that could make them solid #2 SPs on a contender.

...and if he does he will be a real stud next year. IMO Chen, Hammel, Tillman, Matusz, and Britton all have the qualities that could make them solid #2 SPs on a contender.

I don't know about solid #2's. Maybe a couple of them could but I see most of them as #3's.

Statistics: Posted by Matt P — October 10th, 2012, 1:46 pm

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ofahn wrote:

...and if he does he will be a real stud next year. IMO Chen, Hammel, Tillman, Matusz, and Britton all have the qualities that could make them solid #2 SPs on a contender.

...and if he does he will be a real stud next year. IMO Chen, Hammel, Tillman, Matusz, and Britton all have the qualities that could make them solid #2 SPs on a contender.

I'm really interested to see what happens with Matusz next year.

Statistics: Posted by Jordan Tuwiner — October 9th, 2012, 6:22 pm

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Matt P wrote:

He was a rookie this year. I'm sure the training staff has instructed him on what he needs to do in the off season.

He was a rookie this year. I'm sure the training staff has instructed him on what he needs to do in the off season.

...and if he does he will be a real stud next year. IMO Chen, Hammel, Tillman, Matusz, and Britton all have the qualities that could make them solid #2 SPs on a contender.

Statistics: Posted by ofahn — October 9th, 2012, 3:45 pm

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ofahn wrote:

Which is no different than asking a 440 guy to become an 880 guy. He needs to adjust his conditioning.

Which is no different than asking a 440 guy to become an 880 guy. He needs to adjust his conditioning.

He was a rookie this year. I'm sure the training staff has instructed him on what he needs to do in the off season.

Statistics: Posted by Matt P — October 9th, 2012, 2:41 pm

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Matt P wrote:

Or, he just wasn't used to pitching every fifth day because his entire life he pitched once a week.

Or, he just wasn't used to pitching every fifth day because his entire life he pitched once a week.

Which is no different than asking a 440 guy to become an 880 guy. He needs to adjust his conditioning.

Statistics: Posted by ofahn — October 9th, 2012, 1:55 pm

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ofahn wrote:

The fact that he's so much better with an extra day of rest makes the strongest argument that he needs to spend his winter in an extensive leg strengthening program. If he builds his legs and endurance he will be a seven inning or longer machine every fifth day.

The fact that he's so much better with an extra day of rest makes the strongest argument that he needs to spend his winter in an extensive leg strengthening program. If he builds his legs and endurance he will be a seven inning or longer machine every fifth day.

Or, he just wasn't used to pitching every fifth day because his entire life he pitched once a week.

Statistics: Posted by Matt P — October 9th, 2012, 1:32 pm

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Statistics: Posted by birdwatcher55 — October 9th, 2012, 12:06 pm

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Incredible.

Statistics: Posted by Matt P — October 8th, 2012, 11:07 pm

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Statistics: Posted by birdwatcher55 — June 7th, 2012, 12:35 pm

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Shocked that teams still swing at so many pitches. Wonder if that changes down the road.

Statistics: Posted by Tucker Blair — June 6th, 2012, 8:19 pm

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