9 Responses

  1. Charles Brown
    Charles Brown August 15, 2010 at 8:19 am |

    Baseball America has been throwing in Jack Armstrong Jr. with the other three pitchers that you mentioned. They seem real high on him.

    1. Jordan
      Jordan August 16, 2010 at 10:40 am |

      It’s amazing how deep the 2011 class is…Hultzen, Bauer, Gray, Barnes and more.

  2. Don
    Don August 15, 2010 at 10:48 am |

    It is still too early at this point to make heads or tails how the remaining month and a half shakes out this year. I would rather want the Orioles to play better, even if it means loosing the chance for one of the better college bats next year.

    In all honesty, the team is more than one player away to become a solid contender in the AL East. They would be just as close drafting Coles, etc…

  3. Tim
    Tim August 15, 2010 at 12:10 pm |

    Obviously 2011 performance will dicate who goes where. That being said, I’ll take Purke. You can’t teach lefty.

    1. qbsillest1
      qbsillest1 August 16, 2010 at 12:14 am |

      I disagree, who cares what hand you throw with when you are touching 99 MPH? IMO Cole is in a different class than the other 2. First off, Cole has a FB that he will be able to flat out dominate with, a FB much better than either Jungmann or Cole, but also, he has the least amount of questions about him. Right now, Purke is mostly a 2 pitch pitcher. What if the changeup never comes around? Cole has 3 pitches that will in the end grade out to plus at the very least. Jungmann has inconsistency with his delivery which makes his command off and on. Also, his FB being straight is somewhat of a turnoff for me. He is however still projectable…..

      To the poster above who mentioned Jack Armstrong, he isn’t in the same class as the 3 pitchers mentioned above. However anything can happen in the next year, but right now he isn’t even the 4th best arm IMO. Matt Barnes and Sonny Gray are a close 4 and 5 and are realloy interchangeable for me. Then you get into the Armstrong/Bauer/Hultzen range………There are also some intriguing HS arms around too, but this will be one of the more “normal” drafts when even the best HS arms go later in the draft due to the depth in college arms(see Cole, Gerrit and Porcello, Rick)

      1. Jordan
        Jordan August 16, 2010 at 10:24 am |

        Cole is definitely at the top for me, as I’ve heard some very good things from a teammate of his. I like Purke, too, but beyond the issues with his changeup & delivery, I’ve heard he doesn’t have the best mindset.

        Either way, whoever drafts one of these players is walking away with a pretty special pitcher.

  4. S.Hogan
    S.Hogan August 16, 2010 at 1:06 am |

    Cole will not have 3 plus pitches if he cannot command his breaking ball. The key word is potential, but the above article clearly mentions that Cole has some work to do with the pitch. More advanced hitters are not going to chase an out of the zone slider with the same regularity as college hitters, so he’ll need to refine the way he throws the pitch and his command to really get things going.

    Also, while he may have the best overall stuff, he doesn’t have the best results. Don’t get me wrong, I’d absolutely love to add Cole to the system, but I’m not going to get happy pants because he touches the greatest velocity. Strikeouts are great, but despite his dominant FB he still walks too many guys and as a result his ERA increased. If his command improves, he could be a highly elite talent, but until then I may be more inclined to take Jungmann or Purke.

    1. qbsillest1
      qbsillest1 August 16, 2010 at 2:17 am |

      He has commanded his slider very well in the past. When drafted, he was a FB/SL guy and his slider was a surefire plus pitch at the time. Over the last year or so, he lost feel for it, but in the Super Regionals it apparently looked fine. Because he had it before, and is showing the ability to throw a plus slider still combined with solid mechanics lead me to believe he will become more consistent with the pitch. Who cares what the numbers say in college? In the grand scheme of things what does that matter? What matters is how the pitcher is getting the K’s and even more importantly how he does in the future in the ML.

      Explain to me, why would you be more inclined to take Jungmann or Purke? Because all I see you doing is telling me Cole’s weaknesses, but what about Jungmann’s inconsistent command and delivery(stride). What about the fact that his FB is straight? Or with Cole, whatabout the fact that he lacks truly elite FB velocity and a 3rd pitch. Not only does he lack a 3rd pitch, but his arm slot makes it extremely difficult to develop a good changeup. That doesn’t exactly bode well for his future as far as being a better ML pitcher than Cole. Also, Purke has a smallish frame whichalso makes people question his long term durability.

      EVERY pitcher has questions, even Strasburg did with his delivery. Cole has the least amount of questions and most elite stuff, not just FB but his entire arsenal. And he does have good command of his FB, his changeup is pretty newly developed for him, so his command will improve with the pitch as he gets more reps with it. The slider has been inconsistent, so his command has also suffered, but should improve as he develops.

  5. Dan
    Dan August 16, 2010 at 11:10 am |

    I want Rendon. But Cole would be a nice consolation prize.